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  • 楼主(阅:3722/回:20)台湾和大陆谁丢失了中华文化?

    这个题目也许大了些,准确地说应该是“台湾和大陆谁保留了更多的汉语成分?”因为我想说的是汉语的问题,它只是中华文化的一部分而已。

    汉语到底是台湾保留得多些还是大陆保留得多些?我对一些人的看法不敢苟同。前些日子看了台湾的媒体,有篇文章抨击中国大陆将汉字简化成丑陋的简体字,不但字形难看,而且割裂了中华文化的继承性。里面还有一个描述,说一个台湾博物馆的馆长到长沙马王堆汉墓参观,给一个外国朋友讲述了一些发掘出来文物上面的文字记载。外国友人说,真令人钦佩,馆长竟然认得2000多年前的古字!馆长说,因为我们台湾保留了原来的古老的写法,所以台湾人认识几千年前的文字没有问题。馆长问旁边也在参观的一个大陆年轻人,这上面写着什么认识吗?年轻人笑着摇摇头。馆长得意地说,在中国大陆,这个文化传承已经断绝了。台湾对汉语的保留要完整的多。然而,确如此君所言乎?

    我对此问题的赞同有所保留。

    第一,台湾博物馆馆长和中国大陆普通游客没有可比性。应该将之与一个中国博物馆馆长相比较为贴切些。因为这种类比降低了对台湾学术界的要求。拿一个高层次学者来与一介草民相比能说明什么呢?台湾的普通百姓也不可能看懂这些古文的,因为除了字形外还有古汉语语法的问题。再说大陆人民对传统汉字的认识比很多台湾人所认为的要多得多,很多人在学校里看明清小说或古代名著,早就无师自通了,并没有什么障碍。那个年轻人看不懂马王堆有关的出土记载更大的原因是不懂古汉语语法。一般的大陆人写繁体字比较地困难些,因为不常用。但是,是否所有台湾百姓能够花同样的时间学会那些笔画众多的繁体汉字,如灶(竈)、郁、龙等字呢?说到简化字的优点的话,我觉得起码它对几亿人民的扫盲运动起到了巨大的作用!一个班里有10个学生的话,老师认识并记住他们肯定比记住一个具有30个学生的班级要容易得多。另外,大陆学术界对古汉字的研究也是颇有成效的,比如,郭沫若、王力、周秉钧等等。学界自有公论。

    第二,台湾保留了大部分的传统书写习惯并不能代表它更好地保留了汉语。我们都知道,语言不光是“文字”,语言的载体至少有听觉符号和视觉符号,如果不谈其他的媒介的话。台湾诚然保留了更多的传统书写习惯,视觉符号比大陆的保留做得好些。但是,听觉符号保留得怎么样?大陆当然保留得比台湾要好得多。中央电视台及广播电台的普通话抑扬顿挫、咬字清楚,台湾的很多视听媒体所说的现代国语却大大的简化了传统汉语的语音系统。台湾多数人已将《切韵》系统(以及后来宋代的《广韵》以及唐“守温三十字母”)中的“知”组字、“精”组字、“庄”组字和“章”组字的舌音、齿音中的全清、次清、全浊音与“精”组的相应音想合并,简化到了原来的四分之一!这是一个地地道道的“简体音”系统!结果“招=遭”(章组:精组)、“超=操”(知组:精组)、“澄=层”(知组:精组)、“事=四”(庄组:精组)相混,等等。有的还将“非”组字与“晓”组字相混,结果“非份=灰混”(守温的非组:晓组)、“芬芳=昏慌””(守温的非组:晓组)不分。还有韵母的“梗”摄和“臻”摄也相混,结果“镇虎=政府”等等。没有上下文的情况下,有时候对其言是莫名其妙。如果将声母简化到只剩下两个:b 和 d, 韵母也简化到两个:a 和 i,那么我们的汉语将是:ba ba di di da da!

    所以,大陆和台湾对汉语简化的“贡献”是半斤八两,只是五十步笑百步而已。因为台湾今天的“正体字”并非皆为古体字,汉字从甲骨文到篆书到隶书到楷体都发生了很大的字形变化,台湾的繁体字与唐宋时期的汉字相比也是大有“简化”的现象的。所以,正确的做法是大家坐下来商讨语言标准的制定问题,不但谈大陆的“简化字”、台湾的“正体字”,也应该谈台湾的“简化音”和大陆的“正体音”。-Aulok

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  • 看台湾电影是不容易听懂。可能真是他们的语音简化了。不处在他们的社会环境中,更难懂了。小丫
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  •  本帖:2011-04-21 11:06
  • 台灣還是維持反動反改革格局,這就是為什麼中華民國為何會被中人民唾棄的原因

    中華民國之所以用繁體字就是它反動反改革的表現,難怪中華民國不得人心會被推翻,用簡體字的中共有龐大的太空事業,用繁體字的台灣在地上玩牛屎;用簡體字的中共發射幾百顆人造衛星,現在太空上有一百多顆是簡體字改革者中共的,繁體字台灣只能向法國買,玩來玩去都是那顆性能差又被法國鎖碼的垃圾福衛;用簡體字的中共有著龐大的軍火工業(美國工業超過七成都是軍火工業),反動反改革的中華民國連子彈都賣不出去,用簡體字的中共基礎科學遠勝過用繁體字的台灣,用簡體字的中共文化創意產業更是台灣連比都不要比的,台灣最多也只能拍拍低成本沒什麼文化小情小愛的偶像劇。

    下一代的人只會說中華民國或台灣是反動反改革不求進步,用白話文及簡體字兩大革新是中華民族救亡圖存的改革,中共都做到了,但台灣用繁體卻用白話文,這種半套難怪愈來愈差,台灣要保存中華文化就先承認自己是中國人,用古文書寫,用優美的金文別用繁體字楷書


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    文化是在不断发展变化的。两岸分隔多年,政治经济背景都不一样,所以,两岸对中华文化的保留和发展很自然地慢慢有所不同。大陆的迅速发展也许跟简化字没有直接的关系,因素很复杂。不好说简化字真的对科学的发展起到这么大的推动作用。但有一点可以肯定,就是它使中国在很短的时间内实现了数亿人的大面积的扫盲,为科学队伍提供了大量的后备军,这也许算是对科学的间接推动作用吧。
    世間本有路,若人稀草盛,則蹊徑無可覓。
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    很多台湾人(比例多少不太清楚)都不认为自己是中国人了,还争这个有司马用呢。
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  • 学者所说的东东太深奥,看了似懂非懂。但是,说个人感觉吧,不贬低谁也不抬高谁,就是感觉而已:我周围的朋友都觉得台湾话听上去不上档次,北京话让人觉得层次要高些。北京话是白领话,台湾话是生意人的话。怎么表达准确呢,就这样说吧,一个是阳春白雪一个是下里巴人。
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  • 回复楼主:其实台湾的电影电视没有一部是用古汉语的,大陆的影视用古汉语的很多,台湾连书面语都没能用到电影电视当中,只是用口语而已。
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    我见过一个日本的学者骂汉字一文不值,原因是汉字造成了日文的书写排版落后。当汉字输入革命的到来,汉族输入比英文更快捷方便,那学者也没见发声了……
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